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FACT and REALITY

Longstanding cement and concrete science has established that calcium chloride-in acceptable quantities-is a primary cause of discoloration in cementitious surfaces, particularly when steel troweled. Further, the Portland Cement Association research performed in 1966 described that when the ratio of cement alkalis to chlorides was low, a light spotting discoloration on a darker background resulted. The white cement used in swimming pool surfaces is a low alkali cement. 

These surface discolorations were permanent and such discolorations would become more pronounced with increasing chloride levels. 

These cement researchers also indicted any practice that skewed the surface water to cement ratio. The water to cement ratio is the most important factor in determining surface durability. All cement and concrete authorities specifically recommend against adding water to tools or surfaces during finishing operations, or troweling bleed water back into the surface. It negatively impacts the surface and is known to cause a variety of surface defects and problems in addition to the ones described in the 1966 research.

Years later, starting in 1999 and continuing into 2011, another generation of prominent cement scientists independently examined spotted swimming pool plasters, and determined that some of the same original factors caused similar problems, and certain others, in swimming pool surfaces. They also determined that aggressive water conditions DID NOT cause the problem. These scientists pointed to three of the same variables as determined by the cement and concrete industry as causative factors-use and abuse of calcium chloride admixtures, excessive hard troweling of the surface, and applying water to tools or surfaces during finishing operations (skewing the surface water to cement ratio).  Sound familiar?

When confronted by these facts, the NPC claimed the original 1966 cement research did not apply somehow because gray, not white, cement was used. The NPC ignored the fact that cement and concrete industry literature described that even greater attention to such details was required when white cement was used. And, considering that swimming pool plaster is designed to be immersed in water, the durability and non-permeability of that surface is even more critical!

With the exception of a higher iron content that is found in gray cement, the chemistry of cement is consistent, and does not change based upon the application. In fact, swimming pool plaster is a much richer cement mix, which makes that cement chemistry-and the things that negatively affect it- much more important. But, again the NPC said none of that original cement research applies to us. (Is there some magical change in white cement chemistry when it is used in swimming pool applications?)

As to the modern cement research that specifically and directly linked the same factors to causing spotting and certain other plaster defects in swimming pool plaster, the NPC buried its head in the sand, and pretended that research never happened. It is still happening today, at the expense of the industry and its consumers.

In 15 years, the NPC has never tried to refute the eminent scientists that told the industry that improper plaster workmanship was to blame for the spotting problem. They ignored, redirected, and did everything possible to avoid meeting that science head on. Why? Because it is a battle they cannot win. Dr. Boyd Clark, Mr. Niels Thaulow, (chemical engineer and petrographer) Ms. Laura Powers, (microscopist and petrographer), Dr. Michael Silsbee, Dr. Mengesha Beyene, and Mr. Ron Sturm (petrographer) are a dream team of some of the finest cement scientists in the nation. Go ahead, tell me how each and every one of them failed in their examinations or misinterpreted data, and made invalid conclusions. 

(The irony of this is it was originally the NPC's idea to use these modern cement researchers to determine once and for all, the cause of spot "etch". On May 15, 1999, the NPC Board and its research committee, agreed to engage two of the most prominent cement laboratories, Construction Technologies Laboratory (CTL) and the RJ Lee Group to examine spot "etched" plaster and find out what caused it. That research never happened.)

To date, NPC has never refuted these scientists and invalidated their conclusions.  And those scientists’ and laboratories conclusions are completely consistent with the standing science of the cement and concrete industry.  Frankly, I don’t think the NPC can refute them, and that may explain why the NPC does everything possible to pretend that these scientists’ research doesn’t exist.

And, for a few reasons, the swimming pool industry cannot accept the NPC argument that their own Cal Poly research somehow refutes these scientists.  First, to invalidate “our” cement scientists’ position, you have to specifically identify exactly where the scientists made mistakes-in their examinations, in their methodology, in their observations, and most certainly in their conclusions.  Second, the NPC’s Cal Poly research DID NOT prove anything that was claimed, and critical review exposes it as a research embarrassment.

FICTION: and THEORY

For those of you that want to believe the NPC’s claim that their Cal Poly research "proved” aggressive water conditions" (and not plaster workmanship issues) caused spot etching, consider the following. In September, 2004, the NPC and Dr Damien Kachlakev, their principal researcher at Cal Poly, claimed their Phase One study concluded that “water chemistry is the most important factor in the spot etching of swimming pool plaster.” (Pool and Spa News, September 2, 2004)

 But I am betting you didn't know that 6 months later, in a written report on the same research to the International Cement Microscopy Association, Dr. Kachlakev stated that they did not link water chemistry to causing spot etching-primarily because they had botched the water chemistry maintenance in the research project so badly as to invalidate the study:

While the observations from this study are useful in showing different stages and mechanisms of SA [spot alteration, or spots on the plaster surface] in pools, they do not link SA to a specific set of construction practices or water chemistry conditions.”(bold and underline emphasis added) 

So, the Cal Poly study did not link spot etching to water chemistry conditions, which clearly contradicted the earlier statement in the Pool and Spa News.  But, neither the NPC nor the professors ever advised the swimming pool industry of this very important change of conclusion, or admission of research failure. I don't know about you, but I can't imagine anything more newsworthy-or embarrassing.  But what is most disparaging, is that both the NPC and the professors continued to claim the "aggressive water conclusion" to the swimming pool industry, and actually used this fatally flawed research as the foundation for subsequent research-all of which attempted to disclaim any workmanship issue, while blaming water chemistry.

All of that certainly does not measure up to the monumental task of invalidating either the cement scientists’ conclusions or the standing science of the cement and concrete industry.

So, what do you think? I look forward to your comments, and we’ll get to Part Two in a few days.

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Research Results Suppressed by Plastering Industry
At poolside inspections, service techs and pool owners are being told by plaster consultants that the light spots and streaking and/or grey mottling discoloration on their new pool plaster were caused by aggressive water. The consultants add that the NPIRC/Cal Poly studies have proven this and that there are no other relevant studies on this type of problem. Of course, this is false on both counts.
It is unfortunate that some pool owners and service techs become either misled or intimidated into accepting these false claims and end up paying for a replaster for problems they did not cause. The fact is that there are other research studies demonstrating that improper workmanship practices are the likely cause of such discoloration type problems. The following are studies (some even conducted by the National Plaster Council), which contain information and results that pool plasterers do not like, and which they have suppressed or not shared because they do not want the rest of the industry to know about the results.

ARIZONA POOL STUDY – organized by Greg Garrett – current NPC Technical Advisor
In 1991, a pool was plastered by Arizona NPC members using different manufacturer’s cements and aggregate mixes in eight separate sections. It was reported that all mixes had calcium chloride added, although the amount has not been released. The pool water was first maintained in balance for a few months and then maintained in slightly aggressive conditions. After one year, the pool was drained and inspected. Mr. Garrett wrote a report (which Pool & Spa News reported on) claiming that all sections “spot etched” (soft spots, streaking, and lightening discoloration), and that this was caused by aggressive water. Doug Latta was present the day this test pool was drained, along with the service company representative who maintained the swimming pool.
A year later, the entire onBalance team and an editor from Pool & Spa News visited that pool and noted some interesting details that Mr. Garrett hadn’t reported on. While it was noted that six of the eight sections had spotting covering over 80 percent of the area of each section, two other sections had less than 25 percent coverage in spotting. Indeed, one section had only a few spots with less than 20 percent of the section affected with spotting and streaking discoloration, and with a large area completely unaffected. No sections were identical and even the spotting and discoloration was different from section to section. This difference indicates that perhaps something other than aggressive water caused the spotting. It was also noted that the white plaster had more mottling (graying) than most typical plaster jobs.
At the time, onBalance already had reason to believe that workmanship issues may be involved in the development of light spotting and grey discoloration. A request was made to Mr. Garrett and to NPC members asking how much calcium chloride was added to each section, how much hard troweling and water troweling was performed on each section, and we requested the video on the troweling process, and a response to the fact that two sections had very little spotting in comparison to the other sections. This was met with a refusal from NPC members to provide any further information or answers.

PASADENA POOL STUDY - 1992-1998:
This pool was plastered by California NPC members and the setup was similar to the Arizona test pool. After one year, an inspection determined that only one section out of the eight developed some light spot discoloration, which clearly indicated that this phenomenon was not caused by aggressive water chemistry, which invalidated the supposed results of the Arizona Test Pool. Five years later, onBalance and Stan Zielinski (an IPSSA member who serviced this pool and was also the liaison to the NPC) inspected this pool and determined that no other section had spotted. It was also noted that one other section had developed a few calcium nodules (an indication of delamination and bond failure). The original video of the installation of the Pasadena test pool showed that this nodule section did not adhere and fell off the wall several times during the plastering!
A request was made by onBalance to the NPC asking them to report and publicize the results of this test pool and respond to the evidence that this additional NPC test pool study indicated that spotting and streaking discoloration is not caused by aggressive water, and more likely caused by improper troweling practices. The NPC did not publish results from this test pool.

NPC and onBalance joint “Alkalinity” research project - 1999
Sixteen large (double sets) plaster coupons were formed (with various materials) and made by NPC members in 1999 and given to Que Hales and Kim Skinner (onBalance members), sixteen to each. Each coupon was then cut and quartered and placed in four different alkalinity maintained waters, 40 ppm, 80 ppm, 120 ppm, and 160 ppm. One year later, only one coupon developed any soft spot discoloration, and the spotting occurred in all alkalinities of 40, 80, 120 and 160 ppm. And interestingly, the spots only developed on the troweled side of the coupon, and not on the back (molded) side which was also exposed to the same water. This experiment also illustrated that water chemistry could not have been the primary factor in the spotting problem.
At the 2000 NPC conference, onBalance reported on the result of the “Alkalinity” experiment to the NPC membership. NPC leaders claimed that the joint “Alkalinity” experiment was tainted by possible tampering with ONE of the sixteen coupons (not the one that spotted), and they disavowed the results without providing details or publishing results to the industry.

RJ Lee Group and Construction Technology Laboratory studies (CTL) 1999-2003
These two professional cement analysis firms were retained by onBalance to independently study several swimming pool plaster defects and failures from actual pools. Core samples were sent to them and after petrographic analysis (using scattered electron microscopy, stereo optical microscopy, electron dispersive spectroscopy and X-ray diffraction) they both concluded that improper additives and practices led to the spotting problem. These studies and reports were sent to the NPC, but onBalance never received any response. Over 12 separate plaster failures were analyzed as part of this research.

Portland Cement Association (PCA) research studies and literature.
The PCA has published literature stating that up to 2% calcium chloride additions will lead to an overall darkening and mottling effect on cement products. Additionally, a PCA study (RX203) has reported that late hard troweling along with the use of calcium chloride in cement mixes will cause dark or light spots to develop.
The NPC has not officially responded to this particular study, but there are some reports that some plastering members claim that this PCA study has no relevance to pool plastering. So-called plaster experts claim that there are virtually no ferrite compounds in white cement, but that claim is false. Ferrite compounds in grey cement are small, about 2.5 percent, and there is about 1 percent in white cement. Ferrite will react with calcium chloride to darken the cement color (especially noticeable on a white cement background), and late hard troweling causes it to be even darker and can create spotting. Further, the materials, tools and finishing practices are the same with grey or white cement, as well as the integrally colored cement chemistry. There is no honest reason to claim that the PCA’s studies do not apply to swimming pool plaster.

Summary
As can be easily seen, all of this past research pointed to improper workmanship practices and material additives as more likely causing the spotting and streaking discoloration problem. Of course, this implicates the pool plastering industry as being responsible for these problems.

A course of action by the NPC
In 2003, the executive director of the NPC, Mitch Brooks, declared that all past studies on discoloration problems (including NPC’s own test pools) were either conflicting, flawed, or irrelevant, and nothing could be learned from them. He also announced plans to fund and have Cal Poly (NPIRC) begin studying plaster problems. Mr. Brooks did not explain why and how these other studies were flawed or useless.
Mr. Brooks stated that there had not been any independent studies conducted by PhD’s (which wasn’t true – see references to PCA and RJ Lee above), and therefore Mr. Brooks contended that an independent study by Cal Poly was needed and that the NPC would stand by the results obtained by them. Unfortunately, the observations and results from the Cal Poly research are tainted by poor research procedure, and many claims contradict established cement and concrete science. (See “Problems with NPIRC studies”).

Recent reports that have not been publicized by the NPC.
The Rothstein report “Plaster Durability in Pool Environments” - 2005
Dr. David Rothstein, along with Cal Poly professors Dr. Kachlakev and Dr. Pal, presented a paper, “Plaster Durability in Pool Environments” to the International Cement Microscopy Association (ICMA) in 2005. In that paper, they concluded that Phase 1 of the Cal Poly Research did not link Spot Alteration (light soft spot or etching deterioration) to a specific set of construction practices or water chemistry conditions. This completely contradicts the Cal Poly professor’s statements to the pool industry that “water chemistry is the primary cause of “etching deterioration” (spot alteration or discoloration). Although Drs. Kachlakev and Pal’s statements were released to the pool industry, the Rothstein material was not. This contradictory information was brought to the attention of NPC board members. The NPC has remained silent on this conflicting issue and has not made this known to the pool industry.

The Jana report “Swimming Pool Plaster Deterioration” - 2008
In his report to the ICMA, petrographer Dipayan Jana provides multiple reasons to implicate plastering workmanship in many common plaster problems; he acknowledges that “spot alternation or deterioration” can be caused by workmanship, and also water chemistry - but bases that theory of water chemistry causation on the Cal Poly Research and the Rothstein report – neither of which prove water chemistry causation! The NPC and NPC personnel are listed as contributing to the Jana Report. To date, the NPC has not disclosed this report to the pool industry. Why not?

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