Sense and Despense Technology

I need some educating:I would like someone to give me a breakdown on the Sense & Dispense Technology (S&D T). I am currently installing the Aqua Rite System as a salt generator. I have never added S&D T to an existing system. I do see this as a wonderful way to increase sales and help the customer.I have a residential customer inquiring about converting from Cl 3" tabs to a salt generator w/ Sense and Dispense, and am curious what to expect for an install and what equipment combination works best.Thanks, Wes

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  • BEN REDIN THEM BOOKS AGAIN,HUN?

    Wes Burdine said:
    Yeah...Occasionally I like to use those high-faluten $40 words. Makes me feel I got somethin' outta my edumacation. lol.
  • Hi Wes!
    Short story is I like sense and dispense. I think one of the greatest benefits is that the cell only runs when there is demand for sanitizer, as opposed to a preset percentage of the circulation cylce time. So my feeling is the life of the cell can be extended significantly this way, without having to be adjusting the chlorination all the time. It works the other way too: if there is a large sanitizer demand, the unit can be programmed to extend the circulation cycle until the sanitizer demand is met. If you run your pool systems year round like I do here in Socal, you can adjust the ORP down a little in the winter, and save even more cell life. As with any salt system, you need to make sure you have no leaks in the pool or you will be forever fighting salt levels, and the pH needs to be kept in the 7.4-7.6 range to keep the cell clean. If you use the sense & dispense 2 package to control pH with a CO2 tank, this will be taken care of for you. I installed pH control on all my systems. You can use the pH sensor to control a peristaltic pump for liquid acid, but I have not done this. ( I like the CO2 tanks, the customer pays for the tank and pays to get it refilled. The tanks are a little bulky, but overall, the customers feel more comfortable carting them around.) Installation is maybe 3 hours at the most, considerably less after you have done them a few times. I did one system on a commercial pool where the sense and dispense actually controlled 2 cells, that was handy. That's the brief. If you have questions, please feel free to post.
    Tony

    Wes Burdine said:
    Thanks Tony. Never too late. My customer held off on the S&D system. We were both unsure regarding the benefits. Please feel free to enlighten us.
    • I agree with Tony, I like This system we use it on most of our pools but we also add ozone, oversized cartridge filters and 2 speed pumps. This allows you to run the pool 24/7 with much less demand on the cell. The better the sanitation system the happier the costomer. Once you set up a few they sell themselves.

      Tony Miller- MPS said:
      Hi Wes! Short story is I like sense and dispense. I think one of the greatest benefits is that the cell only runs when there is demand for sanitizer, as opposed to a preset percentage of the circulation cylce time. So my feeling is the life of the cell can be extended significantly this way, without having to be adjusting the chlorination all the time. It works the other way too: if there is a large sanitizer demand, the unit can be programmed to extend the circulation cycle until the sanitizer demand is met. If you run your pool systems year round like I do here in Socal, you can adjust the ORP down a little in the winter, and save even more cell life. As with any salt system, you need to make sure you have no leaks in the pool or you will be forever fighting salt levels, and the pH needs to be kept in the 7.4-7.6 range to keep the cell clean. If you use the sense & dispense 2 package to control pH with a CO2 tank, this will be taken care of for you. I installed pH control on all my systems. You can use the pH sensor to control a peristaltic pump for liquid acid, but I have not done this. ( I like the CO2 tanks, the customer pays for the tank and pays to get it refilled. The tanks are a little bulky, but overall, the customers feel more comfortable carting them around.) Installation is maybe 3 hours at the most, considerably less after you have done them a few times. I did one system on a commercial pool where the sense and dispense actually controlled 2 cells, that was handy. That's the brief. If you have questions, please feel free to post.Tony

      Wes Burdine said:
      Thanks Tony. Never too late. My customer held off on the S&D system. We were both unsure regarding the benefits. Please feel free to enlighten us.
  • Yeah...Occasionally I like to use those high-faluten $40 words. Makes me feel I got somethin' outta my edumacation. lol.
  • good word "enlighten"
  • Thanks Tony. Never too late. My customer held off on the S&D system. We were both unsure regarding the benefits. Please feel free to enlighten us.
  • I know I may be too late to be of any help on this discussion, but I have installed several sense & dispense systems w/CO2 over the past few years. contact me if you need info
  • Maybe a Pentair guy will jump in here and enlighten us on the Anode. What I saw was a nice big anode in a clear TEE piece so you could see what was happening to it.
  • Thanks Rick. I'll be at the site tomorrow and will triple check the bonding HA! Please tell me about the new anodes when you get a chance.
  • I had to interrupt my lunch and run for a book there LOL. I always get alarms going off when seeing 1.5hp pumps with 24" filters and 3 returns etc.

    That Super Pump looks like about 67gpm at 50' whereas a Whisperflow will do about 110gpm. 24" sand filters are generally 60gpm on filter and 45gpm for a real nice backwash. So I was concerned that you would see channeling on filter and broken laterals during a backwash. Pump might be a tad oversized unless there is more head on the system but not anywhere what I was initially thinking.

    Before putting a Salt system in double check your bonding. Then, triple check it. Then maybe look at one of the new anodes they are making to help lower any risks. I can't speak to the Sense and Dispense because I haven't used one yet, but I would assume it will be fine, equipment is itself is rarely a problem.
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